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January 27, 2010

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When you're baking, do you spritz the oven and the doors with water or leave a tray of water on a rack in the early part of baking?

I leave a rimmed sheet pan on the bottom of oven. When I put the bread in, I pour 2/3 cup of boiling water into the pan, shut the door and KEEP IT CLOSED. Depending on the bread, I let the steam escape after 15 minutes, or just keep the door closes as the steam diminishes through the oven vent.

Others put a pan on a shelf below their baking stone.

Spritzing is dangerous (you can explode an oven light bulb -- I have). Also pouring cold water is dangerous, if it gets on the glass door, the glass can crack (done that too).

Ice cubes in a tray at the bottom of the oven is another trick, less steam, but steady.

Very informative read. Hope it will improve my baking.

I just found your blog and enjoy it very much!I am new to The Fresh Loaf and came across your post on Jim Lahey's pizza, which lead me here. The Alice Waters story killed me! Really helpful to learn about your method of setting up the steam for bread baking--I spritzed for the first time yesterday and it scared me--so I'll give your method a try. Such a great story about Alice--really!

Dan Lepard has written more than a column in The Guardian. He is the author and photographer of one of the most beautiful and inspiring bread books I have ever read or worked from, and is a great teacher. It's called The HandMade Loaf in case you haven't read it.

Thanks for good tips... i like it..

Great Post! Very nice read. I learned a couple of good tips here.
Years ago I did a sourdough starter from scratch and kept using it for a year. As the good yeast grew and the undesirable yeast was overtaken the taste of the bread got better and better.

Thanks for the tips and your commentary. I've been baking with natural leavening on and off for a few years but always get a heavy, dense bread with only tiny air pockets (in a dough made using good bread flour and almost 100% white flour). I've tried recipes from Nancy Silverton's La Brea Baking book and Maggie Glezer's Artisan Baking. I always give my starters a few days of room temperature refreshing before starting a recipe.

I think my problem might be temperature. I live in the S.F. Bay Area, where interior temperatures are usually in the 60s, far below the optimal upper 70s. Should I look into building a heated proofing box (using a low-watt light bulb as the heat source, for example)? Or significantly extend my initial fermentation and final proofing time (possibly by several hours)?


If your temperatures are in the 60s, yes, you do need to significantly extend rising times. Ive used tricks like putting a heating pad under the bowl to warm it up, but watch out, it can easily get too hot. Even putting it in a high cabinet could help, as it will be warmer in there. Others put dough in the room with their hot water heater. But if you do rise it at a lower temperature you can still get marvelous results. You just need to be more patient, but time always rewards the baker. 

Hi again, glad to see you got Dan's book, I hope you thought it was worth it.. you should come and post on his forum too. He will have a new book out one of these days - a british baking book this time. I just baked cottage loaves following E David's method and formula, it was quite interesting to start in a cold oven and meant that the loaves didn't spring so much but the tops didn't topple over. All the best, Zeb

I just made Dan's sourdough barley rye. Came out good, nice flavor but I plan on tweaking a bit before I post on it. Looking forward to his next book .

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