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May 15, 2008

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(Sam, if this is too tangential don't hesitate to cull it like, say, some unwanted by-catch.)

re: Gene Kahn, General Mills & the "democratization" of organic foods.

As someone who cherishes democracy and cares about language it always grates when someone abuses the word "democratization" like this, which is far too often.

What Gene means is "popularizing" or "spreading" or "mainstreaming" or maybe "mass-marketing" organics.

"Democracy" = demos/people + kratia /rule. It is inviolably about the distribution of decision-making power on principles such as one person/one vote.

Making things cheap and affordable can be a good thing, but its a market phenomenon, not a political one. Any "power" involved is exercised on a one DOLLAR/one vote basis, which is, by definition, plutocracy, not democracy.

Otherwise the hero's of our democracy would not be Adams, Madison and Thomas Paine, but James Watt, Henry Ford, & Sam Walton.

If I seem a wee-touchy about this it is because some in the organic industry actually have 'democratized' their companies in the literal sense.

Specifically the founders of Equal Exchange and La Siembra both turned over power to their employees one a one person/one vote basis. (They're worker co-ops and were just named two of the world's most democratic workplaces, see www.worldblu.com).

Farmer co-ops (like Organic Valley and Big Tree Farms) and consumer food co-ops are also governed democratically in the true sense of the word.

Rodney, Thanks for your comment. I think by "democratization" he is interested in having an impact on foods most people buy, which are conventional. He's working to improve practices in that area. He's gotten a lot of heat over the years, and I would just say, there is no singular approach to sustainability - it's about a diversity of approaches with the same impact as biodiversity.

Hi Sam,

The 60,000 lbs of shrimp consumed daily in Las Vegas is disturbing, but it is not surprising.

Shrimp is the most popular seafood among Americans, and most of it is imported from Asian and South American countries, where giant shrimp farms have destroyed mangroves and coastal ecosystems, depleted wild fish stocks, degraded biodiversity, and polluted water and agricultural land.

Shrimp farming has caused social and health problems as well; local fishing communities that traditionally relied on mangroves for food and resources have been displaced and impoverished, and child labor and abuse of women have also been associated with shrimp farming. In the U.S., local fishermen have been put out of business due to the “dumping” of cheap imports.

There are also significant consumer health risks from eating contaminated shrimp, which is alarming given the results of a recent report from Food and Water Watch that found that the government physically inspects less than 2% of seafood imports, even though antibiotic and pesticide residues in the flesh of imported farmed shrimp can cause serious illness.


Mangrove Action Project (MAP) has recently launched a campaign, "Shrimp Less, Think More" to raise awareness about these problems and to encourage consumers to choose more sustainable seafood.

More information is on the campaign blog: www.shrimpless.wordpress.com

Sam, what do you think is going on when no panelist can endorse a single farmed seafood product? Are they aiming too high, and asking for perfection? Or, are the impacts just so severe that they're right in saying you shouldn't eat any of it?

Eli, there are some good shrimp farm operators outside the US, it's just tough to make sure you're eating their shrimp.

And Mark, the focus was really on the big three - salmon, shrimp and tuna -- all of which have issues in farming. I've heard of less benign salmon operations, with reduced density. I also have heard of some novel fish meal solutions, but I don't think anyone is there on a large scale. But again, which farms and how do we know what we're buying - that's the challenge right now.

There were positive comments made about tilapia, catfish and to a degree, trout, as well as barramundi (http://www.australis.us) and kona kampachi (http://www.kona-blue.com) but those last two are very small, early efforts. Thigns are far ahead overseas, especially with barramundi, which is a great fish to eat!

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